Can I measure multichannel setups (5.1, 7.1 etc.)?

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    Clément Chaumeil

    Hi, do you know when the measure of a multi channel setup will be available ?

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    Teemu Hammaren

    Any progress on multi channel support? 

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    Matīss

    Hey!

     

    At the moment, we've not made any progress on multi-channel calibration due to us focusing on new releases, but it is on our road-map!

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    Fabian Schaller

    Oh yeah, please work on that!!!

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    Richard Spooner

    I have a set up in protools where I use 3 instances of sonar works on the routing that feeds my 5.1 output. Working well for everything but the Lfe. 

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    Fabian Schaller

    Nice! For 5.1 I use Nuendo. I will try it there. Thanks!!!

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    Patrice Lazareff

    Yes please, we need more 5.1 cowbell !

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    Patrice Lazareff

    @Richard Spooner Would you care to expand on that, especially for the center channel ? Thanks !

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    Richard Spooner
    Well it's definitely a work around but all I can say is that I've mixed quite a lot of TV and Theatrical Shorts with the set up and it seems to make my room translate well.
     
    Readings.
    I do three readings. 1. Left and right monitors as normal. 2. Left Sur and Right Sur monitors as you would do a normal left and right. 3. Centre and the left or right speakers.
    I don't use the delay settings that are created , just the eq. 
     
    My I/O set-up.
    In Protools I created a 5.1 bus which is called B-Chain. This 5.1 bus has 3 stereo sub-paths,  L+R. C+Lfe, Ls+Rs. 
    I have a 5.1 output that has 3 stereo sub-paths, L+R, C+Lfe, Ls+Rs. Which feed the appropriate monitors.
     
    Session Routing.
    My Final Mix 5.1 bus is sent to the 5.1 B-Chain Bus. I create 3 stereo busses who's inputs are the 3 B-Chain stereo sub-paths. These 3 stereo busses are then sent to the 3 stereo output sub-paths that feed the speakers. These 3 stereo sub-paths have the appropriate sonar works plug-ins over them with the readings I took earlier.
     
    Essentially all i'm doing is splitting the 5.1 bus into 3 SMPTE stereo paths which I can then put the stereo plug-in over before sending them back out the 5.1 outputs. It should be easier but Protools won't let you send a 5.1 bus or track to anything but a 5.1 bus or output. I think if I had something like the Spanner plug-in I could do it easier.
     
    As I said I don't use the delay feature in Sonarworks. I do delay the surrounds via another plug-in though for other reasons.
     
    This way I have 5 speakers EQ'd for the room. The Lfe just uses the reading I got for the left speaker when I measured the centre and left speaker. Not perfect but ... 
     
    Make sense ?
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    Patrice Lazareff

    Thank you very much for sharing this. Yes, it makes perfect sense and I will try asap.

    As for the delays, I have taken much care to set all 5 speakers in a perfect circle, so that should be ok.

    I've juste seen the new sonarworks website and the release of the version IV. A new hope ?

    Thanks again, kind regards,

    [email protected]

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    Fabian Schaller

    Any news about the multichannel support? Can't wait for that, hahaha.

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    Matt Waites

    Please do multichannel!

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    François Beauvais (Edited )

    In the meantime, here is my workaround for a "systemwide" approche to 5.1.

    First off, I should say that my main goal was to apply the calibration only to my front left and right channels while being able to listen to 5.1 references from movies and music mixes. My studio is my main listening and working room and I did not want to only have the calibration work in my DAW. I wanted a systemwide that could playback 5.1 material. The main correction was to fix a small frequency buildup between 40hz and 100hz. What I am feeding my center and surround channels dont build up those frequencies that much. It's far from perfect but better than nothing. Using the calibration on only the front left/right in a 5.1 system is still in my case, an improvement.

    The problem is that as of now, Windows (dont know about mac users) does not let you configure the Sonarworks Virtual Audio Device in 5.1 so a Systemwide approche did not work.

    The workaround requires 2 things :

    A standalone plugin called Blue Cat's Patchwork along with an audio interface that can mix input/playback/output. In my case, Totalmix FX.

    So what I end up doing is use a digital loop (jumper) from AES or ADAT Out to AES or ADAT In. The reason for going digital is that if possible, you want to avoid going through the converters twice.

    Next step is to route your playback front left/right to that loop and use Patchwork to put an instance of reference 4 plugin between. In patchwork, you select ADAT 1/2 for inputs and the two channels of your choice for outputs, in my case, I used 7/8.

    I hope this can help someone.

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    mihai

    Please add multichannel support. I'm currently using DIRAC(600 EUR per license) and it's working like a dead horse... Unlike SonarWorks (stereo) it's not even working with my Motu interface.

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    Jp

    +1 for multichannel support!

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    Mike G

    I would buy this instantly if it had multichannel support

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